1 00:00:09,589 --> 00:00:07,349 good afternoon everyone welcome to the 2 00:00:12,390 --> 00:00:09,599 pre-launch press conference for the 3 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:12,400 falcon 9 and kotz 1 mission 4 00:00:17,029 --> 00:00:15,280 and here to discuss the falcon 9 and the 5 00:00:20,790 --> 00:00:17,039 upcoming mission 6 00:00:24,870 --> 00:00:20,800 is gwen shotwell president of spacex 7 00:00:30,070 --> 00:00:27,589 alan lindenmoyer manager of the cots 8 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:30,080 program from the johnson space center in 9 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:36,150 phil mcallister acting director of the 10 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:37,760 commercial space flight development 11 00:00:48,069 --> 00:00:45,990 and mike mcelinen the falcon 9 launch 12 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:48,079 weather officer from the 45th weather 13 00:00:52,150 --> 00:00:50,160 squadron department of the air force 14 00:00:54,150 --> 00:00:52,160 cape canaveral air force station good 15 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:54,160 afternoon and we'll begin first with 16 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:57,120 comments from spacex and gwen shotwell 17 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:59,760 gwen thanks george well i'm happy to be 18 00:01:05,109 --> 00:01:01,120 here 19 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:05,119 assume you know a bit about 20 00:01:09,990 --> 00:01:08,000 about spacex and the cot's mission that 21 00:01:12,149 --> 00:01:10,000 we're about to execute but let me just 22 00:01:14,149 --> 00:01:12,159 do a couple of quick highlights this is 23 00:01:17,109 --> 00:01:14,159 the first flight of an active dragon 24 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:17,119 spacecraft and only the second flight of 25 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:19,920 the spacex falcon 9 launch vehicle 26 00:01:24,070 --> 00:01:21,600 the first falcon 9 27 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:24,080 flight made in flight was a success the 28 00:01:29,830 --> 00:01:27,360 target orbit was 250 kilometers circular 29 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:29,840 34 and a half degrees inclination we hit 30 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:34,880 a 249.1 by 250 3.1 31 00:01:39,190 --> 00:01:37,840 injection at a 34.49 32 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:39,200 degree inclination so it was a 33 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:41,040 bull's-eye we're hoping for uh for 34 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:43,920 another one here upcoming 35 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:46,560 as status on saturday 36 00:01:51,109 --> 00:01:48,399 our second attempt to 37 00:01:53,670 --> 00:01:51,119 do the static fire we were successful 38 00:01:56,069 --> 00:01:53,680 and so we were proceeding for a launch 39 00:01:58,789 --> 00:01:56,079 first thing tomorrow morning about 905 40 00:02:01,030 --> 00:01:58,799 so when i flew last night out of la on 41 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:01,040 the red eye i assumed we'd be launching 42 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:03,360 tomorrow as it turns out in the final 43 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:05,280 review of the closeout photos this 44 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:06,320 morning 45 00:02:10,150 --> 00:02:08,080 we found some indications on a second 46 00:02:12,309 --> 00:02:10,160 stage nozzle that we are 47 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:12,319 spending some time investigating 48 00:02:15,910 --> 00:02:13,760 we're doing some tests and some root 49 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:15,920 cause analysis right now but it looks 50 00:02:20,869 --> 00:02:18,720 like the first attempt of this flight is 51 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:20,879 a no earlier than thursday 52 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:22,560 if things look good 53 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:24,720 if we do put on a new second stage 54 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:27,440 nozzle the day we're shooting for friday 55 00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:30,000 or saturday flight of this week 56 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:31,680 but i don't want to take that too much 57 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:33,920 off track i would like to still go 58 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:34,879 through 59 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:38,080 the mission the highlights 60 00:02:43,270 --> 00:02:39,840 we'll start with the countdown begins at 61 00:02:44,309 --> 00:02:43,280 about t minus 2 hours and 35 62 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:44,319 minutes 63 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:45,840 that's with the chief engineer polling 64 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:48,400 the stations the terminal count begins 65 00:02:52,790 --> 00:02:51,360 at t minus 10 minutes and we run through 66 00:02:54,790 --> 00:02:52,800 a number of 67 00:02:57,670 --> 00:02:54,800 operations on the vehicle 68 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:57,680 liftoff obviously 2-0 69 00:03:01,670 --> 00:02:59,440 the first stage shutdown which is main 70 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:01,680 engine cutoff occurs about two minutes 71 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:04,640 and 58 seconds into flight about four 72 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:06,480 seconds later by the way i have all this 73 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:07,680 in the press kit you'll have all these 74 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:08,879 details so you don't have to remember 75 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:10,720 any of this i certainly wouldn't 76 00:03:14,869 --> 00:03:11,760 um 77 00:03:16,949 --> 00:03:14,879 the about four seconds later the uh the 78 00:03:19,509 --> 00:03:16,959 first stage separates the second stage 79 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:19,519 engine starts about three minutes and 80 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:21,680 nine seconds after liftoff 81 00:03:25,589 --> 00:03:24,560 we go through a series of operations on 82 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:25,599 orbit 83 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:33,830 and water landing at t plus three hours 84 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:35,920 and nineteen minutes 85 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:38,480 um that's all i had prepared for this 86 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:41,440 i'm looking forward to your questions um 87 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:43,200 actually let me first i wanted to show 88 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:45,200 you a video uh that we had shooting this 89 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:47,040 morning the falcon 9 was vertical on the 90 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:49,760 pad so uh so it is pretty real uh so if 91 00:03:56,879 --> 00:04:07,509 it's about a minute long 92 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:09,750 i think the only audio on the video is 93 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:10,720 the wind 94 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:50,469 so 95 00:04:56,790 --> 00:04:53,670 great george all right thank you gwen 96 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:56,800 and now to alan lindenmoyer the manager 97 00:05:01,590 --> 00:04:59,360 of the cots program from the johnson 98 00:05:02,790 --> 00:05:01,600 space center in houston alan 99 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:02,800 great thanks 100 00:05:06,790 --> 00:05:04,320 thanks gwen well it is certainly great 101 00:05:07,830 --> 00:05:06,800 to see the dragon and the falcon on the 102 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:07,840 pad 103 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:09,039 i should say 104 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:10,720 a word about our program the nature of 105 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:12,960 our program we started the program 106 00:05:17,670 --> 00:05:15,039 in 2006 107 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:17,680 and it was an experiment in a new way of 108 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:19,120 doing business 109 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:21,440 with private industry 110 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:23,199 and we weren't exactly sure how it was 111 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:25,199 going to turn out but here we are today 112 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:28,639 with a new launch vehicle on the pad and 113 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:30,560 ready to complete its first 114 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:32,479 demonstration flight so it is certainly 115 00:05:37,749 --> 00:05:33,440 very 116 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:37,759 to see the progress and to be here 117 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:40,160 for that started in 2006 and instead of 118 00:05:45,270 --> 00:05:42,080 our traditional approach where we laid 119 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:45,280 out a a series of detailed requirements 120 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:47,039 and issued 121 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,199 a proposal for prime contract for 122 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:51,360 developing a capability 123 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:52,800 uh 124 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:54,560 with with a rather extensive list of 125 00:05:57,909 --> 00:05:56,000 requirements we took a different 126 00:05:59,430 --> 00:05:57,919 approach and said 127 00:06:02,150 --> 00:05:59,440 let's talk about 128 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:02,160 capabilities general capabilities what 129 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:04,000 what we would like to see in new space 130 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:06,240 transportation capabilities and then 131 00:06:10,469 --> 00:06:08,560 nasa just provided top level goals and 132 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:10,479 objectives 133 00:06:15,590 --> 00:06:12,560 to the companies so that they could have 134 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,600 maximum opportunity to innovate and 135 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,000 and be free 136 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:20,560 to to optimize their systems 137 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:21,600 so 138 00:06:29,350 --> 00:06:27,110 spacex 139 00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:29,360 was offered one of those partnership 140 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:32,800 agreements with nasa in in 141 00:06:38,550 --> 00:06:36,160 august of 2006 and nasa took on the role 142 00:06:40,710 --> 00:06:38,560 of a lead investor then 143 00:06:43,029 --> 00:06:40,720 instead of a customer for prime contract 144 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:43,039 requirements we became a lead investor 145 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:45,680 and we also are a technical consultant 146 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:48,000 to spacex to offer assistance when 147 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:50,479 needed and when requested 148 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:52,960 and become more of 149 00:07:01,589 --> 00:06:59,350 we strongly encourage innovation 150 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:01,599 hopefully leading to reduced cost to the 151 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:04,240 access of space which of course we hope 152 00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:06,560 to open new markets and then make a 153 00:07:11,189 --> 00:07:08,319 space accessible to 154 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:11,199 to many more people in the future and as 155 00:07:15,589 --> 00:07:13,840 well as leading to economic growth for 156 00:07:18,150 --> 00:07:15,599 the united states 157 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:18,160 nasa would become a consumer of services 158 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:20,800 then instead of a traditional customer 159 00:07:26,150 --> 00:07:22,400 for our contracts 160 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:26,160 and in fact in december of 2008 161 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:28,000 with the progress that was being made 162 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:30,400 under the cots demonstration programs 163 00:07:35,029 --> 00:07:32,560 in a completely separate activity nasa 164 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:35,039 awarded contracts to orbital sciences 165 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:36,960 and spacex for the resupply of the 166 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:38,880 international space station 167 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:40,000 so 168 00:07:43,990 --> 00:07:42,479 we are very much looking forward to 169 00:07:47,189 --> 00:07:44,000 completing this demonstration and then 170 00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:49,670 which was worth 1.6 billion dollars and 171 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:50,879 spacex 172 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:53,759 is on contract for uh 173 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:56,720 12 missions to certify the station over 174 00:08:00,469 --> 00:07:58,240 the next few years to service the 175 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:00,479 station over the next few years 176 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:03,680 in our program we measure progress 177 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:06,560 and success by incremental milestones we 178 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:09,520 laid out a series of 22 milestones 179 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:10,960 over uh 180 00:08:14,869 --> 00:08:12,960 the term of the agreement 181 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:14,879 uh for a maximum 182 00:08:20,670 --> 00:08:17,759 payment of up to 278 million dollars and 183 00:08:23,189 --> 00:08:20,680 we have paid spacex 184 00:08:24,790 --> 00:08:23,199 253 million dollars for the 17 185 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:24,800 milestones they've completed the date 186 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:27,680 they have five left 187 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:30,560 this first demonstration kotz mission is 188 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:33,200 the next milestone 189 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:35,039 and we're certainly looking forward to 190 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:37,519 that so spacex has done great work over 191 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:39,440 the years we certainly wish you the best 192 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:41,760 of luck and and success in this 193 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:43,599 demonstration mission 194 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:45,839 thank you alan and now to phil 195 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:47,920 mcallister the act direct acting 196 00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:49,920 director of the commercial space flight 197 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,160 development office at nasa headquarters 198 00:08:55,829 --> 00:08:54,560 in washington phil 199 00:08:57,990 --> 00:08:55,839 thank you 200 00:09:00,710 --> 00:08:58,000 this is an extremely exciting milestone 201 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:00,720 for both nasa and spacex 202 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:03,120 we are getting closer to the time when 203 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,440 we can successfully deliver cargo to the 204 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:07,200 international space station and i 205 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:09,200 certainly want to congratulate spacex on 206 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:11,600 the progress that they have made to date 207 00:09:15,670 --> 00:09:13,279 we've got an extremely challenging year 208 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:15,680 ahead with the remaining milestones 209 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:17,920 but getting this far 210 00:09:20,949 --> 00:09:19,360 this fast 211 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:20,959 has been a remarkable achievement so i 212 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:23,279 want to i do want to congratulate spacex 213 00:09:28,630 --> 00:09:25,839 with the decision to extend the life of 214 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:28,640 the international space station to 2020 215 00:09:34,389 --> 00:09:31,200 and potentially beyond and the imminent 216 00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:34,399 retirement of the space shuttle 217 00:09:38,790 --> 00:09:36,800 cargo delivery services to the iss has 218 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:38,800 become more important than ever 219 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:40,480 so we are definitely looking forward to 220 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:42,480 the day where we will have multiple 221 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:45,120 redundant capabilities for iss cargo 222 00:09:49,509 --> 00:09:48,240 transportation services 223 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:49,519 we're also looking forward to this 224 00:09:53,910 --> 00:09:51,839 program as one of the milestones or one 225 00:09:55,910 --> 00:09:53,920 of the models that we're using 226 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:55,920 in developing the commercial crew 227 00:09:59,509 --> 00:09:56,959 program 228 00:10:01,910 --> 00:09:59,519 nasa is planning on taking the next step 229 00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:01,920 with private industry to demonstrate 230 00:10:06,069 --> 00:10:04,000 this government a private sector 231 00:10:07,990 --> 00:10:06,079 partnership and the cuts program is 232 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:08,000 definitely one of the models that we're 233 00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:10,560 using as an input and we plan to 234 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:12,240 leverage the lessons learned that alan 235 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:14,880 and his team have have have learned over 236 00:10:19,590 --> 00:10:16,800 the years and incorporate that into our 237 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:19,600 planning for the commercial crew program 238 00:10:23,030 --> 00:10:22,000 but i do want to stress with this coming 239 00:10:25,509 --> 00:10:23,040 up flight 240 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:25,519 this is a test flight 241 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:28,880 space flight is very very difficult and 242 00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:31,040 his history is any guide there is 243 00:10:35,190 --> 00:10:33,600 undoubtedly going to be some anomalies 244 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:35,200 as we go through the test program that 245 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:37,200 is what the test program is designed for 246 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:38,800 is to learn 247 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:40,640 from nasa's standpoint if we get through 248 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:42,560 this demonstration flight and we have a 249 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:44,959 clear path to the second demonstration 250 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:47,360 flight we will have 251 00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:50,000 we will have achieved a great success so 252 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:51,279 we definitely want to learn from this 253 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:52,720 flight 254 00:10:56,949 --> 00:10:54,240 we hope that everything is successful 255 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:56,959 but as again as if history is any guide 256 00:11:00,630 --> 00:10:58,079 you're not going to have a completely 257 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:00,640 test flight test a 258 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:02,640 completely successful test light program 259 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:04,640 there's only so much you can learn from 260 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:06,000 modeling and simulation and ground 261 00:11:09,910 --> 00:11:07,440 testing eventually you have to fly these 262 00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:09,920 systems you have to flesh out and learn 263 00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:13,200 how they work in space and and move on 264 00:11:18,790 --> 00:11:15,839 get better get smarter but the key is no 265 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:18,800 matter how this test flight goes uh nasa 266 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:20,880 and spacex both are committed to the 267 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:22,720 success of this program uh we're 268 00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:24,800 committed to this partnership so 269 00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:26,320 if there are any anomalies we are going 270 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:28,640 to learn from them move forward and 271 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:30,000 continue 272 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:32,720 to demonstrate these systems as we move 273 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:33,600 forward 274 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:34,560 thank you 275 00:11:38,389 --> 00:11:36,000 hey thanks phil 276 00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:38,399 and now to mike mcaleena the falcon 9 277 00:11:43,110 --> 00:11:40,240 launch weather officer from the 45th 278 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:43,120 weather squadron mike good afternoon 279 00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:44,560 what a difference today makes for the 280 00:11:48,630 --> 00:11:46,800 weather huh 281 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:48,640 we had some cold air move in with a 282 00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:50,560 frontal boundary and as you can see with 283 00:11:54,629 --> 00:11:52,160 the satellite 284 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:54,639 there's not a cloud to be looked for in 285 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:56,880 the entire peninsula we do are seeing 286 00:12:00,550 --> 00:11:58,560 some cold air straight accumulates off 287 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:00,560 the water and that's really the only 288 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:01,760 cloud cover to speak of i don't think 289 00:12:05,910 --> 00:12:03,920 we're going to see much of a change over 290 00:12:09,509 --> 00:12:05,920 the next two or three days 291 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:09,519 moving into the updated launch forecast 292 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:10,480 you can see 293 00:12:13,990 --> 00:12:12,560 we weren't sure 8th or 9th but it looks 294 00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:14,000 like that the winds 295 00:12:18,069 --> 00:12:15,279 will start to diminish we're looking for 296 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:18,079 another breezy and cool day tomorrow 297 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:19,680 but by the time we get to thursday 298 00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:22,320 friday time frame we are looking for 299 00:12:27,430 --> 00:12:24,399 winds to lighten up still be out of the 300 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:27,440 northwest uh 10 peak 15 or so 301 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:29,600 temperatures will start to rebound into 302 00:12:35,829 --> 00:12:32,160 a more more florida-like weather 303 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:35,839 and only a 10 chance of violation and 304 00:12:38,949 --> 00:12:37,040 that would be if the winds are a bit 305 00:12:40,389 --> 00:12:38,959 more northerly or even northeasterly 306 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:40,399 that would cause some of those clouds 307 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:42,800 that you saw just offshore to roll in 308 00:12:46,069 --> 00:12:44,000 might violate a flight through 309 00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:46,079 precipitation constraint 310 00:12:49,829 --> 00:12:48,480 moving into the atlantic for first stage 311 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:49,839 recovery 312 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:51,600 you can see 313 00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:53,200 quite a bit of wave heights are out 314 00:12:57,509 --> 00:12:54,720 there right now the ships are 315 00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:57,519 experiencing gale force winds and 15 316 00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:00,560 foot seas which would not allow recovery 317 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:02,000 to take place 318 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:04,800 the good news is a couple days slip and 319 00:13:09,670 --> 00:13:06,320 wind should start diminishing after 320 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:09,680 today and waves will follow and 321 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:11,680 for launch day we're looking for 322 00:13:15,350 --> 00:13:13,360 waves to be down in the seven to nine 323 00:13:17,910 --> 00:13:15,360 foot range which is right at the edge of 324 00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:17,920 the threshold for uh for safe recovery 325 00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:19,680 of the first stage so a couple days slip 326 00:13:23,990 --> 00:13:22,079 will help recover the first stage on the 327 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:24,000 pacific side more importantly for this 328 00:13:27,590 --> 00:13:26,000 mission is the dragon recovery 329 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:27,600 and uh looking like a much better 330 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:29,760 conditions out in the pacific 331 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:31,360 temperatures are about the same water 332 00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:33,440 temps about 10 degrees cooler however 333 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:36,320 and waves there 9 to 11 feet and they do 334 00:13:41,189 --> 00:13:39,120 drop off or for friday 335 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:41,199 after friday to maybe uh you know seven 336 00:13:44,870 --> 00:13:43,040 eight feet so recovery out there will be 337 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:44,880 marginal but they don't have the same 338 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:47,040 constraints as they do on the atlantic 339 00:13:51,110 --> 00:13:50,160 side so just in summary looks like we 340 00:13:52,949 --> 00:13:51,120 would have had a pretty good chance 341 00:13:55,110 --> 00:13:52,959 tomorrow a little bit gustier and cooler 342 00:13:56,230 --> 00:13:55,120 conditions but don't really see anything 343 00:13:58,470 --> 00:13:56,240 in the next three or four days it's 344 00:14:00,550 --> 00:13:58,480 going to hinder a launch attempt from 345 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:00,560 the weather perspective thank you 346 00:14:05,189 --> 00:14:02,800 all right thank you mike we're ready now 347 00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:05,199 for questions please be sure to give 348 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:06,639 your name an affiliation when the 349 00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:08,880 microphone comes to you and we'll start 350 00:14:18,430 --> 00:14:15,910 jay barbary with nbc uh i'm noticing 351 00:14:21,629 --> 00:14:18,440 that your launch inclination here is 352 00:14:24,710 --> 00:14:21,639 34.5 i believe instead of 353 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:24,720 51.6 which is the inclination to the 354 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:27,760 space station and i believe uh that that 355 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:30,480 takes you over into northern europe 356 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:33,680 i know you have faa approval to launch 357 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:35,760 does that include approval to launch 358 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:37,440 over uh europe 359 00:14:44,069 --> 00:14:40,480 because uh at nine minutes i believe 360 00:14:45,189 --> 00:14:44,079 that traveling at 17 500 miles an hour 361 00:14:47,910 --> 00:14:45,199 you could 362 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:47,920 under the worst set of circumstances uh 363 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:49,440 drop dragon 364 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:52,240 on europe or close by or 365 00:14:56,069 --> 00:14:54,240 somewhere there i don't have a line to 366 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:56,079 go out here but would you address that 367 00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:57,440 please sure 368 00:15:01,509 --> 00:14:59,680 the license that we have with the faa is 369 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:01,519 comprehensive and it covers all phases 370 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:04,000 of flight um so 371 00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:05,440 we 372 00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:16,320 you're talking about 12 missions that 373 00:15:21,030 --> 00:15:18,079 you have under contract with nasa 374 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:21,040 already or these 12 cargo delivery 375 00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:23,600 missions not including any of 376 00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:24,959 the um 377 00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:26,399 the flights that you're doing here on 378 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:28,000 test demonstration 379 00:15:33,430 --> 00:15:31,120 flights 380 00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:33,440 plus 12 381 00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:36,560 going with cargo and when do you expect 382 00:15:41,189 --> 00:15:39,440 under the best circumstances assuming 383 00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:41,199 that everything goes pretty well with 384 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:43,839 your test to be able to let to deliver 385 00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:47,040 your first cargo to the iss 386 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:48,480 okay there's a lot of questions there 387 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:50,320 but hopefully i'll get them all 388 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:52,560 the 12 flights under crs are separate 389 00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:54,880 and distinct for the cots flights 390 00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:56,880 the original program plan had three 391 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:58,560 demonstration flights 392 00:16:02,150 --> 00:16:00,480 if we see success we're going to look to 393 00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:02,160 try to attempt to get to the station on 394 00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:04,480 the second flight 395 00:16:08,949 --> 00:16:07,360 but that's that's obviously decisions 396 00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:08,959 for a later day 397 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,720 i think there was another question in 398 00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:12,720 there carrying cargo on that second 399 00:16:17,749 --> 00:16:15,440 flight uh possibly possibly we'll be 400 00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:17,759 carrying cargo so we anticipate uh 401 00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:19,920 completing the iss 402 00:16:24,629 --> 00:16:22,480 cots missions next year 403 00:16:26,949 --> 00:16:24,639 and executing a cargo mission under the 404 00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:26,959 crs contract as well 405 00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:27,839 so with 406 00:16:31,829 --> 00:16:30,079 atlantis flying this summer with enough 407 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:31,839 to take 408 00:16:35,670 --> 00:16:33,920 supplies enough supplies to the space 409 00:16:37,110 --> 00:16:35,680 station for a year 410 00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:37,120 then uh 411 00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:39,920 you're talking about summer 2012 that 412 00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:43,600 you might be able to start delivering 413 00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:47,600 no next year 2011 2011 2011 is correct 414 00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:49,360 that's correct yeah it's up to nasa to 415 00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:51,600 plan the manifest but that's our plan 416 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:53,040 okay thank you sir 417 00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:54,480 marcia 418 00:17:01,110 --> 00:16:58,560 uh question for miss shotwell then and 419 00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:01,120 ask a question um is there a cost 420 00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:03,279 attached to the upcoming flight 421 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,990 sure 422 00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:11,189 are you you're asking am i going to 423 00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:13,679 share that uh yeah yeah we don't really 424 00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:15,760 talk about cost at spacex 425 00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:18,079 i can say that our pricing is on the web 426 00:17:22,309 --> 00:17:20,720 and it does cover 427 00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:22,319 the cost of the 428 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:26,720 operations with some margin as well 429 00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:30,640 and for mr mcallister do you um 430 00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:32,960 do you believe that 431 00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:35,280 whether the flight goes good or bad can 432 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:37,840 be a contributor to the anti-commercial 433 00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:39,840 forces out there i mean how important is 434 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:41,520 it for this flight to succeed so you 435 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:43,120 don't get all that 436 00:17:45,909 --> 00:17:44,160 uh 437 00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:45,919 questioning and debating and all that 438 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:48,080 that's been going on so far for so many 439 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:50,160 months right that's a that's a great 440 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,440 point and that's why i wanted to 441 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:53,600 emphasize that this is a test flight it 442 00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:55,039 is not uh 443 00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:57,039 it is not a 444 00:18:02,630 --> 00:17:59,679 in any way an indictment for against the 445 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:02,640 overall program if you have anomalies we 446 00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:05,520 expect anomalies and again the purpose 447 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:06,880 of the test flight is to learn so as 448 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:09,280 long as we're learning and we have 449 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:11,440 a clear path for demon demonstration 450 00:18:15,510 --> 00:18:14,240 flight 2 we would consider that success 451 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,520 successful 452 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,520 we're not going to know until the end of 453 00:18:21,669 --> 00:18:19,440 the program if if 454 00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:21,679 if we've been ultimately successful in 455 00:18:25,510 --> 00:18:23,760 achieving the capability of delivering 456 00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:25,520 these services to iss but what we can 457 00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:27,600 say is to date this has been a 458 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:30,640 remarkably successful program um and 459 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:32,720 again just to again to re-emphasize my 460 00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:36,000 earlier comments even if there is a a 461 00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:38,400 a even if we have a bad day for example 462 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:40,400 for this first demonstration flight we 463 00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:42,960 expect to move forward we do not expect 464 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:44,080 that to be 465 00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:44,960 a 466 00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:48,799 flights be successful for us to move 467 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:50,480 forward uh we would never make that 468 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:52,240 because we plan to learn from these move 469 00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:53,679 forward we're committed to these both 470 00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:56,000 nasa and spacex we would certainly like 471 00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,160 to achieve launch into orbit 472 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:00,240 have the dragon separate and have a 473 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:03,280 successful or a safe reentry those three 474 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:05,520 things we would think are key 475 00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:06,960 for this demonstration flight it's 476 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:08,880 definitely a big step above the maiden 477 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:11,360 flight objectives that happened 478 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:12,720 earlier this year 479 00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:13,840 but there's other things that we would 480 00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:15,280 like to test out and we'd like to get 481 00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:16,960 data on those things 482 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:20,880 so i definitely want to de-emphasize the 483 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:22,880 sort of precursor nature of this we're 484 00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:25,760 in terms of the overall program so far 485 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:28,880 we're on very good track and we hope to 486 00:19:32,710 --> 00:19:30,559 learn a lot from this program again or 487 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:32,720 this test flight and continue to move 488 00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:35,600 forward regardless of the outcome 489 00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:37,039 bobby 490 00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:43,270 issue in the reason for the delay and 491 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:44,720 what you might need to do and then i've 492 00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:47,440 got a follow-up and a half 493 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:49,919 i'll tell you what i can keep in mind um 494 00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:51,520 i'm sharing pretty preliminary 495 00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:53,039 information with you 496 00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,360 um they did in the in the inspection of 497 00:20:00,549 --> 00:19:58,000 the final close out photos this morning 498 00:20:02,149 --> 00:20:00,559 sometime after six when i landed and 499 00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:02,159 before 10 500 00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:07,750 so somewhere in that four hour period 501 00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:11,039 uh uh they determined that uh their 502 00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:13,200 indications in in i believe it was in a 503 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,280 weld joint were such that we wanted to 504 00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:17,520 take some additional steps certainly to 505 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:19,440 uh go ahead and actually look at it we 506 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:21,520 brought the vehicle down 507 00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,600 to the horizontal this morning 508 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:25,840 they did some visual inspection i 509 00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:27,760 believe it's back up vertical now and 510 00:20:32,630 --> 00:20:29,520 they're doing some thrust vector control 511 00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,310 what did you see believe it's porosity 512 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:36,559 and potentially cracking i i've not seen 513 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:37,360 the 514 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,080 emails in in a well joint 515 00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:43,760 okay and again just to make sure i 516 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:46,400 understand the earliest is on the 517 00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:48,640 earliest is thursday and if you have to 518 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:50,480 replace the nozzle friday or friday or 519 00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:54,320 saturday yeah the follow-up for alan or 520 00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:57,679 um or phil um 521 00:21:01,909 --> 00:21:00,320 given how much of a political hot potato 522 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:01,919 commercial space flight has become and 523 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:04,320 given the success of cots i mean what is 524 00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:07,360 your thinking about adapting the model 525 00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:09,360 of you know not doing the requirements 526 00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:11,919 but doing capability for for adapting 527 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,480 that over for commercial crew or do you 528 00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:16,720 have to go more to a traditional model 529 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:19,360 of requirements uh or do you see some 530 00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:22,559 kind of of of in between and then also 531 00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:25,280 because it's an issue here um 532 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:26,880 you know there's concern 533 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,960 is the future of the commercial space 534 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:30,640 flight program going to be managed out 535 00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:36,390 okay um in terms of the first part of 536 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,520 the question 537 00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:39,200 um 538 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,400 i've already forgotten the first part of 539 00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:41,600 the question i was starting to answer 540 00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:43,600 the second part 541 00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:45,760 whatever you feel uh oh as a precursor 542 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:47,919 right right right yeah um 543 00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:50,559 again as i said in my intro enter in our 544 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:52,960 intro remarks the cots 545 00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:55,280 cargo program is one of the programs 546 00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:56,720 that we are using 547 00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:58,880 um as input into the commercial crew 548 00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:00,640 program it has a lot of the features 549 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:03,120 that we want for commercial crew it 550 00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:05,600 allows flexibility 551 00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:08,559 it allows the commercial partners to 552 00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:10,720 design the systems with a lot of freedom 553 00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,240 and we think those are good things the 554 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:14,240 cost effectiveness of the program has 555 00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,440 key has been a key aspect 556 00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:19,840 i just uh it's it's almost uh 557 00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,080 unbelievable that we would get this far 558 00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:24,480 for less than a 300 million development 559 00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:25,600 effort 560 00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:27,919 in four years both of those things are 561 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:30,320 remarkable and an anomaly in terms of 562 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:31,919 any historical development that i'm 563 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,480 aware of uh in terms of traditional nasa 564 00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:36,960 development so there's clear things that 565 00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:38,799 we would like to incorporate into the 566 00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:40,559 commercial crew program 567 00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:42,480 that being said commercial crew is 568 00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,559 different than cargo we're carrying 569 00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,919 people 570 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,919 there's human spaceflight certification 571 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,600 requirements and standards that have to 572 00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,720 apply 573 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:52,559 so nasa is still 574 00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:55,600 in the process of developing the optimal 575 00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:58,159 acquisition strategy for commercial crew 576 00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:00,559 and we're working on that right now and 577 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:03,520 we hope to be able to 578 00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:05,840 get a consensus on that and release that 579 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:07,520 information 580 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,760 soon uh 581 00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:11,200 probably within the next six months we 582 00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:12,640 should have a defined acquisition 583 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,960 strategy on commercial crew so but 584 00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,400 there's other features we were also 585 00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,919 looking at the launch services program 586 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,360 there's some things that they do very 587 00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,720 very well 588 00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:22,480 that we could leverage for commercial 589 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:23,360 crew 590 00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:26,240 as well as the constellation program uh 591 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:27,679 that was the most recent one that we've 592 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:29,200 done for human space flight we learned a 593 00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:31,200 lot of things in constellation program 594 00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:32,320 that we'd like to leverage and even 595 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:34,640 going back to shuttle so 596 00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:37,360 we're hopefully going to get the best 597 00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:38,240 and 598 00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:41,840 design the optimal commercial crew 599 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:44,240 program for what we're trying to do 600 00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:46,799 so right now the cargo program is being 601 00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:49,600 managed by alan and we don't anticipate 602 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:51,279 changing that model 603 00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:53,120 allen and his team are at jsc but they 604 00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,080 use people from across the agency 605 00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:58,320 for commercial crew the leed center has 606 00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,880 been assigned for to ksc for commercial 607 00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:03,039 crew going forward and if you've been 608 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:04,720 following the commercial crew program we 609 00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:06,240 currently have a 610 00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:07,600 agreement out on the streets the 611 00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,080 commercial crew development round two 612 00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:12,080 set of agreements uh the announcement 613 00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:13,840 for proposals were released and 614 00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,159 proposals are due in later this month 615 00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:18,240 and when we sign those agreements they 616 00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,840 will be managed out of the ksc office 617 00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,520 irene thanks 618 00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:25,440 um irene kloutz with reuters and 619 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:27,840 aviation week um gwen i had a couple 620 00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:30,240 questions for you um the first is what 621 00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,440 is the targeted altitude for dragon and 622 00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:35,440 could you please take us through 623 00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:36,720 the um 624 00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,520 the on orbit mission objectives are you 625 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:41,520 going to be changing orbit firing 626 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:43,520 thrusters like how many times just kind 627 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,960 of a little 628 00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:46,720 maybe a little play by play of what you 629 00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,360 hope to accomplish in space and then 630 00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:51,360 related to that is i understand your 631 00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,080 plan was to cut off your web stream 632 00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:56,960 after the rocket goes out of view which 633 00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:00,000 is good for camera people but for text 634 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,000 people we kind of like incite the whole 635 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,320 through the whole process and are you 636 00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,760 going to be able to 637 00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:07,679 give us any kind of real-time 638 00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:10,400 information of how the mission's going 639 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:11,679 thanks 640 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:14,480 okay irene your first question was the 641 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:16,960 altitude uh 300 kilometers for this 642 00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:18,640 particular mission 643 00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:21,279 uh your your second question was oh kind 644 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:22,960 of a play-by-play on what were what 645 00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:24,880 we're trying to do with uh with dragon 646 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,440 on orbit um clearly we want to separate 647 00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:29,760 it from the second stage 648 00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:32,159 have it operate under its own power do 649 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:35,919 some maneuvering uh do telemetry um 650 00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:37,840 operate the guidance navigation and 651 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,440 exercise the guidance navigation and 652 00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:41,440 control system this is also in your 653 00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,320 press packet by the way 654 00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,480 conduct a deorbit burn 655 00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,960 re-enter safely 656 00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:50,880 and then obviously we'd like to pick it 657 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,640 up out of the pacific ocean as well 658 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,000 and you had a third question on the 659 00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,559 webcast uh yes just as far as if you're 660 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:00,400 going to if this is going to be uh 661 00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,640 transparent to anybody that's following 662 00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:04,799 the mission as far as what you're doing 663 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:07,440 between uh after a couple of minutes i 664 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:10,880 guess after launch until splashdown 665 00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:13,840 uh well i know well i i should defer 666 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,159 this question to kirsten brost our 667 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,960 communications manager um our webcasts 668 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:20,880 in the past have uh 669 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:24,240 have shown the uh the orbit insertion uh 670 00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:25,520 certainly we did that for the first 671 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:28,240 falcon 9 flight um i i don't know what 672 00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:32,080 the plan is for post uh dragon insertion 673 00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:34,880 uh and then uh splashdown are our 674 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,279 typical is to be pretty open so let me 675 00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:39,520 just follow up with kirsten and we'll 676 00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:40,880 get back with you before i leave here 677 00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,000 today okay 678 00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:43,840 okay i think we're pretty public about 679 00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,679 these things so 680 00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:47,440 we'll we'll see 681 00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,230 bill harwood cbs well i'll just follow 682 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,559 up on that um you are open but not in a 683 00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,400 real-time sense it's it's many many 684 00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,480 hours after the fact that we find out 685 00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,720 even basic things about your missions i 686 00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:02,080 mean hours and hours and hours and hours 687 00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:04,159 now i realize that you guys are busy 688 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:06,080 running the mission and you know looking 689 00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,159 at data but but 690 00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:10,159 i'm just curious is that a is that a 691 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,919 manpower issue for you it's obviously 692 00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,760 philosophical i would guess with elon 693 00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:15,120 the way he wants to run your business 694 00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:15,840 but 695 00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,840 uh i think what irene was asking was 696 00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,440 real time and now you know real-time 697 00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:21,200 data during these missions and so that 698 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,440 people have some idea of what's going on 699 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:24,880 while it's going on can you address that 700 00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:26,880 and i have a question for phil yeah let 701 00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:29,360 me let me do my best to help out here uh 702 00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:31,039 there's no question that we we don't 703 00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,360 have a muzzle on the data by 704 00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:37,120 by design 705 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,520 in some cases we have to delay some feed 706 00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:41,440 because of itar but we don't want to use 707 00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:45,120 that excuse when it's inappropriate 708 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,279 i know on the static fire on friday the 709 00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,200 attempt we were just 710 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,120 release i know we were slow in getting 711 00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,440 out information on friday uh we fixed 712 00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:55,039 that on saturday i think we got a 713 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:57,039 statement out uh within just a couple of 714 00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:58,000 minutes 715 00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,159 of uh of the first attempt and the 716 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,399 second attempt on saturday so we're 717 00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,320 working it i 718 00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:06,559 we don't have like i say we don't have a 719 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:09,440 muzzle a plan to muzzle so maybe it must 720 00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,960 be a personnel issue 721 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,880 or lack of personnel i should say not a 722 00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,559 personnel issue they'll throwing in one 723 00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,399 under the bus 724 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,159 and and we'll continue to work on it i 725 00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:22,880 mean we we webcast the entire first 726 00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:25,279 flight of falcon 9. that's that was 727 00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:27,520 pretty bold since uh history would say 728 00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:28,720 that that was not going to be a 729 00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,039 particularly successful flight 730 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:33,360 so i bear with us be patient we're not 731 00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:34,559 trying to be 732 00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:36,240 secretive about this 733 00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,480 i just i don't know about because i we 734 00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,919 haven't gotten there yet i don't know 735 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,279 about what kind of data is going to be 736 00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,360 available for the dragon operations on 737 00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:45,840 orbit in real time but we'll get there 738 00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:47,440 we'll definitely get there we'll do our 739 00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:49,279 best i i hear the criticism and we'll 740 00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:50,480 work it 741 00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,799 and a a kind of a related question for 742 00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:54,720 phil um when you're talking about using 743 00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,880 cots as a model for commercial crew down 744 00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,640 the road and how you do that 745 00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:00,559 um the same question a transparency 746 00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,000 question when people are involved in its 747 00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,760 taxpayer money i mean the one complaint 748 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,840 i hear about spacex is not that the 749 00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:07,120 hardware is 750 00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:08,240 anything's wrong with the hardware it's 751 00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:10,159 that they're this is from nasa people 752 00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:11,120 now 753 00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,720 is that they don't have any insight into 754 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,880 what's going on i mean how much insight 755 00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:16,880 does nasa require in the commercial crew 756 00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,679 world 757 00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:19,919 um as you proceed forward in terms of 758 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,240 the free flow of information etc right 759 00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:24,320 that's that's another good question we 760 00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,640 require as much insight as we need to 761 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:29,039 get to have confidence that these 762 00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,320 systems are safe to fly um 763 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:34,559 nasa astronauts and nasa-sponsored 764 00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:36,960 astronauts on these systems so there's 765 00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:39,279 not a numerical equation associated with 766 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:40,399 that 767 00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,440 but we do need uh significant insight 768 00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:45,200 into the true nature of these systems 769 00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:47,679 and right now the planning that we have 770 00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,600 done to date we've released some of that 771 00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:51,360 information about how we plan to do the 772 00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:53,360 insight oversight it's still preliminary 773 00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:54,480 and we're still putting the final 774 00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:56,799 touches on it but unquestionably we are 775 00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:59,279 going to want to know um 776 00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:00,559 very well 777 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:02,399 how these opera how these systems 778 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,960 perform and operate and ultimately at 779 00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:06,720 the end of the day nasa is the one 780 00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:07,840 that's going to be providing the 781 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,120 certification 782 00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:11,360 on these systems for human space flight 783 00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,399 so again 784 00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,720 nasa needs to have sufficient insight so 785 00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:16,799 that we have confidence that we can 786 00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,039 apply that certification successfully so 787 00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:21,360 again the onus is still on nasa for 788 00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:22,799 human space flight a lot of the 789 00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:24,960 responsibility is more on our commercial 790 00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:27,120 providers in these 791 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:28,640 partnership models in terms of 792 00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:30,960 responsibility but at the end of the day 793 00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,279 nasa will still have the responsibility 794 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,200 to either certify or not and in order to 795 00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:37,360 do that we need to have insight 796 00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:39,279 so it's sort of a philosophical answer 797 00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:40,720 to your question we don't again don't 798 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,679 have a 799 00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:43,919 calculated numerical answer but we 800 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,080 intend to be very 801 00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:48,960 very involved and 802 00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:51,200 insightful in our approach well just a 803 00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:52,559 really quick related follow are you 804 00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:53,840 satisfied that you have the insights you 805 00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:55,520 need for cuts 806 00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:56,720 are you comfortable with the way things 807 00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:58,720 are going i'll alan answer that because 808 00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,039 in fact i i wanted to clarify your 809 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:03,120 comment that said uh we don't have 810 00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:05,760 insight and in fact 811 00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,720 we we we do have insight in fact uh 812 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:10,159 since since the day we signed the 813 00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:11,679 agreement we've had 814 00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,360 a team together working very closely 815 00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,159 with spacex a small team uh not not the 816 00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:18,480 large numbers that that you might 817 00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:19,760 might 818 00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:21,360 otherwise think but we did have small 819 00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:22,159 team 820 00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,679 uh 821 00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:26,080 providing insight and we have done that 822 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:28,080 on a daily basis now with spacex and 823 00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:29,760 then when we approach the larger 824 00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:32,000 milestones we we bring in a larger team 825 00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:34,240 and we reach back throughout the agency 826 00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:35,760 for the experts we need to review the 827 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:38,960 data packs and and evaluate the progress 828 00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:41,200 being made with spacex and i and i have 829 00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:43,360 to say spacex has been very open with us 830 00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:45,200 on providing all the information we 831 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:46,559 requested and 832 00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:49,440 and has never hesitated in in sharing 833 00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:51,120 information with us so 834 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,799 we've had a great uh 835 00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,880 partnership in terms of the technical 836 00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:56,559 insight 837 00:32:02,470 --> 00:31:58,559 and that has not been been a problem for 838 00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:04,630 james dean from florida today with a 839 00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:06,240 question to follow up first for michelle 840 00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:08,240 well um 841 00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:10,000 during the the maiden flight i believe 842 00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:11,519 elon put a 843 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:13,840 percentage gas on on the successful 844 00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:15,919 flight at something like 70 percent 845 00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,679 uh what is your uh percentage 846 00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:21,840 guess for this upcoming mission on the 847 00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:23,519 chances of a successful flight fully 848 00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:28,389 well history would say that we're going 849 00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,799 to have a substantial issue in one of 850 00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:32,720 the first of the three flights that's 851 00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,640 just empirical it has nothing to do with 852 00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,640 our process or our 853 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,559 our uh hopes 854 00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:41,039 um if i want to have a cloud over my 855 00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:43,679 head i put the success at uh the same 856 00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:45,519 percentage 70 percent 857 00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,240 uh given uh that we did successfully get 858 00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:50,159 falcon 9 to orbit on its made in flight 859 00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:51,519 my guess is it ramped up pretty 860 00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:54,320 substantially um but i'm not a 861 00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,919 statistician so i don't necessarily want 862 00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:57,440 to put a number but it isn't any lower 863 00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:03,190 as a follow-up for for you and or mr 864 00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:05,919 linda moyer specifically when 865 00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,960 have you targeted the first crs mission 866 00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,799 on on your manifest and could you give a 867 00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:12,960 numerical confidence level in the 868 00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:14,399 chances of 869 00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,679 meeting that 870 00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:17,200 whatever that current date is and i'm 871 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:18,080 asking 872 00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:19,440 in the context of a couple of things 873 00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:20,799 first if you listen to the shuttle 874 00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:23,120 program guys and all the way up to mr 875 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,120 meyer 876 00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:27,360 there's a lot of messages about 877 00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:28,399 likely 878 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:31,519 delays and and some pessimism that these 879 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,320 flights are actually going to occur 880 00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:36,480 late next year even early 2012 obviously 881 00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:37,440 therefore 882 00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:39,200 suggesting an extra shuttle flight would 883 00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:40,159 be helpful 884 00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:43,840 and in addition last but not least 885 00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:46,399 would additional cots funding 886 00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:48,480 be essential to making any given 887 00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:56,710 yeah we plan on having uh the next 888 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:00,720 dragon uh ready flight ready in the 889 00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:03,120 late spring early summer of next year 890 00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,039 there is a tremendous amount of data 891 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:07,679 exchange and test reviewing that occurs 892 00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:09,040 after that 893 00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:11,119 so when the liftoff occurs it's hard to 894 00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:12,879 predict especially if that vehicle is 895 00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:15,679 the one that's going to station 896 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:17,359 we currently have 897 00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:21,440 our first crs flight scheduled i believe 898 00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:25,119 late november of next year 899 00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:26,560 and 900 00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:28,159 again i'm not a statistician i don't 901 00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:29,760 want to put a percentage to that but i 902 00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:32,159 can tell you spacex is all in 903 00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:34,159 on trying on getting dragon to station 904 00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,040 next year um there's pessimism it's a 905 00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,280 new program we've experienced delays in 906 00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:41,599 the past but uh 907 00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:43,599 uh getting falcon 9 to orbit early this 908 00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:46,320 summer was enormously helpful you take 909 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:47,919 the majority of the launch vehicle 910 00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:50,480 questions out not all obviously since 911 00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:52,159 history um 912 00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,359 and then now we need to get dragon 913 00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:55,200 flying so uh 914 00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:56,960 like i said we're all in getting uh 915 00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:58,320 dragging to the station next year at 916 00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:01,359 least once and hopefully twice 917 00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,680 right here in the back 918 00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:06,000 so could either of you adjust whether 919 00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:07,599 additional funding 920 00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:10,079 as per was proposed in the you know fy 921 00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:11,359 11 budget 922 00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:12,400 is 923 00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:16,240 how helpful it would be to maintain your 924 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:17,839 schedule 925 00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:18,560 right 926 00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,480 well the 927 00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,160 current program 928 00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,720 i believe is fully executable 929 00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:27,280 as we have currently planned but as you 930 00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:29,200 know the starting with the augustine 931 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:31,040 commission and then worked its way into 932 00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:32,640 the president's budget and now into the 933 00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,040 nasa authorization bill 934 00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:37,280 discussed adding additional funding to 935 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,200 increase the chances of success of these 936 00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:41,280 scots demonstration missions 937 00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:42,320 and 938 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,359 we have 939 00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:47,280 studied that and of course nasa believes 940 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,000 very strongly in a very robust 941 00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,560 and comprehensive test program 942 00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:54,320 to reduce 943 00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:57,280 technical risks and a new development 944 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,119 of spacecraft capability like this so 945 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,839 given the direction to 946 00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,359 possibly add additional funding should 947 00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,440 that be appropriated we have discussed 948 00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:09,920 additional testing with the rendezvous 949 00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,560 and the radar systems that could reduce 950 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:14,720 some of the risk in the 951 00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,480 iss proximity operations we talk about 952 00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:20,400 adding perhaps some thermal vacuum 953 00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:23,119 testing of the solar array which is 954 00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:24,720 something that was not currently planned 955 00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:27,680 but that would be a test that would 956 00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:34,470 of the solar array which is necessary 957 00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:36,400 for the iss 958 00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:43,109 as well as some additional testing on uh 959 00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:46,160 full dragon vehicle uh emi and emc 960 00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,400 testing so this is the type thing that 961 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:50,000 we would add 962 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,920 should we be provided with additional 963 00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:53,680 funding we do think that would reduce 964 00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:54,720 risk 965 00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,480 and increase the overall chance of 966 00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:58,079 success of these cuts demonstration 967 00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:00,240 missions and let me let me just add one 968 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:01,760 thing to that 969 00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,240 if we were to add these additional 970 00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,280 milestones it's for new content 971 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,440 again the once we made the decision to 972 00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,880 extend the life of the space station 973 00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:12,960 again these cargo resupply services 974 00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:14,960 became more important to nasa than ever 975 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:17,119 so when we looked at the the portfolio 976 00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,040 of capabilities and the risk associated 977 00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,960 with the cots we said for for nasa's 978 00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:22,640 purposes we felt like it was in our 979 00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,320 interest to provide some additional 980 00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:26,480 funding for additional milestones this 981 00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,880 is new content it's not cost growth on 982 00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:30,720 the original agreements this new content 983 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,280 so we're asking our our cots partners 984 00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:35,520 orbital and spacex for 985 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:36,480 new 986 00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:40,880 to be executed to reduce our overall 987 00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:43,359 risk and so i just wanted to make that 988 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:45,040 that distinction it's not for cost 989 00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,800 growth it's to reduce nasa's risk 990 00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,800 associated and there's risk associated 991 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,800 with any development program so more 992 00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:52,480 money is always better 993 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,160 you can always use more money to reduce 994 00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:56,320 our risks but when we decided to 995 00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:57,599 increase the life of the space station 996 00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:59,119 that's when we felt like the 997 00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:00,640 augmentation milestones would be a good 998 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,960 idea so it was sort of a package in the 999 00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,960 presence fy11 budget requests the 1000 00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:06,560 extension and the augmentation 1001 00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:07,760 milestones they were sort of the 1002 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:11,040 philosophy strategically went together 1003 00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:12,800 okay i'll come right over here on the 1004 00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:21,510 it's a question to feel but can you give 1005 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,119 your name please your affiliation sorry 1006 00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,440 i'm guillain-barre with french tv um 1007 00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:27,040 you've talked about trying to create 1008 00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:29,200 sort of multiple redundant capabilities 1009 00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:32,400 to go and have access to iss and if we 1010 00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:34,160 take the master of 2020 it's more a 1011 00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:35,920 micro question can you lay out the 1012 00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:38,880 vision of nasa of what you know how open 1013 00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:40,320 space 1014 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,839 best model for you do you have a number 1015 00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,680 of many sort of companies you could you 1016 00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:48,079 know bring up cargo or commercial 1017 00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:50,320 flights up there and when if you could 1018 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,240 project to 2020 where do you think 1019 00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,240 spacex should be or what would you like 1020 00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:57,119 it to be um both cargo commercial 1021 00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,200 wherever you want to take it 1022 00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:01,440 yeah for for nasa's purposes we would 1023 00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,640 like to see an extremely robust uh u.s 1024 00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,000 industry uh 1025 00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:08,000 and international industry to provide 1026 00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:11,680 cargo and crew capability to iss to 1027 00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:13,920 really maximize the benefit of this very 1028 00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:16,000 impressive facility it's 1029 00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:18,000 it's been a very strong commitment on 1030 00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,359 the part of the united states and our 1031 00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,960 international partners to get that 1032 00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:23,359 facility up it's extremely capable and 1033 00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:25,119 we want to get the maximum utility out 1034 00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:26,960 of that in order to do that you need a 1035 00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,760 very robust set of systems to be able to 1036 00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,440 deliver crew and cargo 1037 00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:33,359 i think we're well on our way with cargo 1038 00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:35,280 so far and i do want to congratulate 1039 00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,280 alan on the job that he has done we 1040 00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:39,440 really didn't know 1041 00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:40,240 what 1042 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,200 thought of this 1043 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,680 we had some ideas and so far it's been 1044 00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,520 just remarkably successful so i want to 1045 00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:50,000 congratulate alan and also spacex again 1046 00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:51,280 so i think we're well on their way for 1047 00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,079 cargo delivery services for crew we we 1048 00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:56,480 do believe that competition is critical 1049 00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,359 in any services so we would like to have 1050 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:01,040 two or more 1051 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:04,400 crew capable services in in the 2020 1052 00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:05,760 time frame 1053 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:08,720 we'll have to see if that's enabled by 1054 00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:11,680 by the government and commercial market 1055 00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:14,079 uh but ideally we would like to have 1056 00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,599 routine 1057 00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:17,119 cost-effective 1058 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:18,160 space 1059 00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:20,720 transportation services to low-earth 1060 00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:23,119 orbit by 2020. that's what that's that's 1061 00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:24,319 the goal that's something we've been 1062 00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,000 talking about in the space community for 1063 00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:27,920 years and i believe this commercial crew 1064 00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:30,160 program is the next step to helping make 1065 00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:34,790 follow-up 1066 00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:37,280 it was forced basically you know right 1067 00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:38,800 sure um 1068 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,200 by 2020 uh we'll be servicing the 1069 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:43,599 international space station with cargo 1070 00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:46,720 on regularly uh hopefully with crew as 1071 00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,520 well 1072 00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,359 we'll be flying other commercial crewed 1073 00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:51,599 missions beyond the international space 1074 00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:52,480 station 1075 00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:54,400 um 1076 00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:57,280 to other destinations in low earth orbit 1077 00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:58,240 and 1078 00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,240 hopefully some some bigger things as 1079 00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:02,640 well but we certainly want to focus on 1080 00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:06,160 low earth orbit cargo and crew 1081 00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:12,230 jason ryan with spacevidcast universe 1082 00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,359 today i was wondering given the 1083 00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:15,599 significance of this first cot's mission 1084 00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:18,079 is um anything been done to mark either 1085 00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,800 the dragon or the falcon 9 or perhaps 1086 00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:22,880 some kind of little symbolic thing 1087 00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:24,880 placed inside the dragon to annotate 1088 00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:31,750 we've got thousands of patches 1089 00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,230 okay right here 1090 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,319 hi robert perlman with collectspace.com 1091 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,720 uh sort of a follow-up to that um can 1092 00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:44,800 you talk a little bit about the dragon's 1093 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,640 cargo does it have ballast to simulate 1094 00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,000 the same type of weight it would have on 1095 00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,079 a supply mission or additional 1096 00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:52,079 instrumentation for you to collect on 1097 00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:53,839 this flight and i have a follow-up 1098 00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,200 thanks 1099 00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:57,280 you know i i i'm going to be guessing 1100 00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:59,599 here i think we do have some ballast on 1101 00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:01,280 this flight but i want to follow up i 1102 00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:02,640 don't want to i don't want to lead you 1103 00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:05,520 straight we do we do have uh patches uh 1104 00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,880 in the in the dragon um 1105 00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:10,319 let me let me follow up i don't want to 1106 00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:16,630 then in regards to recovery operations 1107 00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:18,560 can you just describe a little bit about 1108 00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,560 how many ships you'll be deploying what 1109 00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:22,319 type of ships they are where you're 1110 00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:23,920 staging them 1111 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:26,560 and if you hope to get descent imagery 1112 00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:27,680 are you going to have 1113 00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,119 are you going to hope to see parachute 1114 00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:31,440 deploy or see it 1115 00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:32,960 lower to the ocean or 1116 00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:34,319 just come upon it once it's already in 1117 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:40,069 that's a lot of detail and not that i'm 1118 00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:41,599 not willing to give it i just don't know 1119 00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,160 if i can give it accurately 1120 00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,079 alan you may know more we're leveraging 1121 00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:48,240 both commercial and nasa assets alan 1122 00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,599 will probably have more detailed 1123 00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:51,839 information than i do i believe we've 1124 00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:53,599 got two boats 1125 00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:55,359 on the east coast 1126 00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:58,480 one boat on the west coast we've got a 1127 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:01,040 couple of p3 aircraft 1128 00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:03,119 that we want to cover telemetry of 1129 00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:05,359 dragon during reentry 1130 00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:07,440 we'll be getting tdrs links as well for 1131 00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:09,040 telemetry 1132 00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:10,400 we're trying to get as much data as we 1133 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:13,119 can obviously um 1134 00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:14,800 alan do you have any follow-up for that 1135 00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:17,280 well uh spacex is completely responsible 1136 00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:18,960 for the recovery and leasing the ships 1137 00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:20,800 and all the recovery operations for the 1138 00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:23,599 dragon but we nasa are 1139 00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:26,560 providing some navy p3 aircraft 1140 00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:29,839 to assist with imagery during the entry 1141 00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:32,319 and as well as some 1142 00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:35,599 telemetry to make sure we 1143 00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,480 get as much information as we can to 1144 00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:40,800 support this this new phase of this 1145 00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:43,599 demonstration mission 1146 00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:44,720 dan 1147 00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:49,440 kind of clean up on the end of that 1148 00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:51,599 question and then and ask one of my own 1149 00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,400 uh 1150 00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,960 so would we see any of that imagery live 1151 00:44:10,309 --> 00:43:56,720 on the webcast 1152 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:13,030 a question and a follow-up here if i may 1153 00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:14,160 um 1154 00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,000 well when would the first 1155 00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:20,319 launch of astronauts 1156 00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:21,760 be possible and i know there are no 1157 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,240 contracts for this yet so under the best 1158 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:26,640 case scenario how how early could you 1159 00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:29,760 how soon could that be 1160 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,839 thirty two and a half to three years 1161 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,599 after uh 1162 00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,000 after a program is initiated is is the 1163 00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:38,880 earliest possible for astronauts 1164 00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,589 this launch as far as a 1165 00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:47,119 cost question 1166 00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,240 is there is it a private public private 1167 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,560 slash public venture or is this launch 1168 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,160 all nasa's money 1169 00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,880 all cots money given that this uh 1170 00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:58,880 demonstration flight is executed under 1171 00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:01,040 the cots program it is most definitely a 1172 00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:03,200 public-private partnership 1173 00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,040 nasa's contributed 1174 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,680 a total of 278 million 1175 00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,880 we've spent 1176 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,119 well over 600 million 1177 00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:14,240 at spacex getting to this point so 1178 00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,839 from my perspective it was an incredible 1179 00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,520 by nasa it seems to me it's got to be 1180 00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,359 one of the highlighted success stories 1181 00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:24,400 of a public-private partnership 1182 00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,680 keep in mind if we overrun this program 1183 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:29,200 we have to come up with the money 1184 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,720 through investment 1185 00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,720 to cover the cost which is dramatically 1186 00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:34,720 different from taxpayers funding cost 1187 00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:37,119 type contracts whereas if the contractor 1188 00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:39,280 overruns taxpayers have to pay the 1189 00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:42,000 overruns it's not the case in this 1190 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:43,440 for this program and i think that's 1191 00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:45,200 exactly why this program was set up that 1192 00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:46,800 way 1193 00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:48,960 to limit the government's exposure just 1194 00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:51,359 very quickly if i may that 278 is for 1195 00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:54,000 this mission only no the 278 million is 1196 00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,520 for the development 1197 00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:57,200 as well as the demonstration flights 1198 00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,000 under the cots program 1199 00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:02,640 you're right here in the front 1200 00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,640 uh jim siegel celebration independent 1201 00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:06,960 newspaper i have a question for gwen i 1202 00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:08,960 was looking at the press release there's 1203 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:12,480 a a statement by your ceo elon 1204 00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:14,800 that says um 1205 00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,000 uh the program uh will be or make 1206 00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:20,560 possible a return to the fast pace of 1207 00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,319 progress that took place during the 1208 00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,000 apollo era 1209 00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,400 that suggests either the use of proven 1210 00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:28,640 technology or 1211 00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,560 more efficient processes or shortcuts or 1212 00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:34,240 something and i wonder if you give us 1213 00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,319 some examples of some of the elements of 1214 00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:38,480 the program that make that kind of 1215 00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,040 statement possible 1216 00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:43,359 sure i don't want to get into 1217 00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:45,520 how other programs are 1218 00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,319 slower than us i'd rather talk about 1219 00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:50,560 some milestones that we've hit that have 1220 00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:53,599 just demonstrated to be faster 1221 00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:56,079 for instance building up the pad at 1222 00:47:02,710 --> 00:46:58,880 launch complex 40. i believe we got the 1223 00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,720 right of entry in october of 2007. 1224 00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,640 we started construction which means we 1225 00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:06,640 had our plans approved 1226 00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:09,359 and demolition complete i believe in may 1227 00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:11,040 of 2008 1228 00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:14,000 and we were ready to accept hardware at 1229 00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:16,800 the end of 2009 1230 00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:19,440 so very rapid development of launch 1231 00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:25,990 so that's just a one example of how 1232 00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:28,400 spacex has been able to to do things 1233 00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,760 very quickly i 1234 00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,359 i don't think there's any single reason 1235 00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:32,880 why we have 1236 00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,319 the fact that we do operate in a 1237 00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,480 commercial environment 1238 00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,400 we don't have to do the mother may i 1239 00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:40,800 cycle with a huge number of 1240 00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,800 organizations we basically have a set of 1241 00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,559 performance requirements 1242 00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:46,640 that we have to hit specifically for 1243 00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,839 cots 1244 00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:49,680 and interfacing with the international 1245 00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,800 space station those are firm 1246 00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:52,400 specifications and requirements that we 1247 00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:55,119 have to meet how we meet them is up to 1248 00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:55,839 us 1249 00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:59,839 so that cycle of permission and and uh 1250 00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:00,880 and 1251 00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,119 implementation based on permission is is 1252 00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:05,599 is cut dramatically short i don't like 1253 00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,240 to hear the concept of cutting corners 1254 00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:09,920 i would never characterized it that way 1255 00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:11,359 although obviously folks have used that 1256 00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:15,430 for 1257 00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,920 falcon 1 and falcon 9 we did enormous 1258 00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,680 amounts of ground testing i don't know 1259 00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:21,520 anyone that does static fires right now 1260 00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:22,960 of first stages 1261 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,280 or second stages so not only we do we 1262 00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,200 acceptance test every component we've 1263 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:29,280 qualified the vehicle as well so we do 1264 00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,880 acceptance tests of every component we 1265 00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,400 integrate them onto stages and we 1266 00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:34,160 acceptance test the stages i don't think 1267 00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,079 there's a vehicle flying that does that 1268 00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,160 so i bristle a little bit at the whole 1269 00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:40,000 concept of cutting corners 1270 00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:41,359 just because it's faster doesn't mean 1271 00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,710 all right ken chang your times this is 1272 00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,880 from his shot well um after the june 1273 00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,640 flight elon suggested that the first 1274 00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,559 demonstration flight would occur at the 1275 00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:54,559 end of summer so i was wondering if some 1276 00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:55,359 of the 1277 00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:56,160 um 1278 00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:58,000 issues with with the weather issues with 1279 00:49:01,829 --> 00:48:59,680 the first flight that's like the role of 1280 00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:01,839 the second stage that were more bigger 1281 00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,680 than them first looked and whether you 1282 00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:05,680 could talk about some of the 1283 00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:07,599 technical challenges that spacex 1284 00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:09,359 encountered and solved in getting ready 1285 00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:10,960 for the demonstration flight 1286 00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:14,160 sure i think we have our faa report our 1287 00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:16,079 closeout report from that flight out on 1288 00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:18,640 the web if not we will get a summary out 1289 00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:19,599 on the web 1290 00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:20,800 um 1291 00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:23,680 the uh the the delays from the late 1292 00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:25,839 summer to now are primarily associated 1293 00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:27,280 with creating getting the dragon 1294 00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:29,920 spacecraft ready falcon 9 has been ready 1295 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:32,079 well except for obviously the issue we 1296 00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,440 found this morning 1297 00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,000 falcon 9 look to be ready far sooner 1298 00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,079 than now 1299 00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:40,640 we have a dragon is a very complicated 1300 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:41,920 spacecraft 1301 00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:47,520 withstand the incredible heating and 1302 00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:49,680 pressure loads during reentry 1303 00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:51,920 it's very complex propulsion system 1304 00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:53,119 we've got eight 1305 00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,079 monomethylhydrazine and n2o4 1306 00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:58,160 thrusters which are dual redundant we've 1307 00:50:01,670 --> 00:50:00,160 got dual redundant drogue parachutes 1308 00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,680 dual redundant 1309 00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:03,119 mains 1310 00:50:07,990 --> 00:50:06,000 a guidance navigation and control system 1311 00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:08,000 that is designed to keep us in a tight 1312 00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:09,680 berthing box while the international 1313 00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:11,760 space station arm picks us up 1314 00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,760 we've got new avionics new lithium 1315 00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:15,520 batteries so it's a very complicated 1316 00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:16,880 spacecraft 1317 00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:18,800 and there's a lot of work to do and it 1318 00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:21,040 would be foolish for us to 1319 00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:23,200 launch that spacecraft sooner than it's 1320 00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:24,400 ready to go 1321 00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,319 so we're taking our time on this and 1322 00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:29,040 we're willing to take the hits 1323 00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,559 okay irene we're gonna take one final 1324 00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:31,920 question from you and then we're gonna 1325 00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,520 close out thanks 1326 00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:35,920 i'm ironing thoughts with reuters um 1327 00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:37,839 when what um 1328 00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:39,920 um what assurance is there that if you 1329 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,680 lose control of the 1330 00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:43,760 dragon while it's in orbit or on its way 1331 00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,480 to orbit that it would not um threaten 1332 00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:48,400 any populated areas 1333 00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:50,240 uh what would happen in that scenario if 1334 00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:52,319 you lost control of it and um 1335 00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,839 could you just talk a little bit about 1336 00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,920 what you needed to demonstrate for the 1337 00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:57,599 faa to give you your 1338 00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,079 waiver slash license whatever you ended 1339 00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:02,480 up getting for permission to go ahead 1340 00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,359 and fly this thing thanks 1341 00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:07,599 sure um i'm going to have to keep this 1342 00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:08,960 at a high level because i don't 1343 00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:11,520 necessarily know all the details but uh 1344 00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:13,920 in order for the faa to license this 1345 00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:15,839 this launch this mission 1346 00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,720 uh they have to go through the detailed 1347 00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:19,760 design 1348 00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:20,960 uh 1349 00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:23,440 of the both the falcon 9 and dragon 1350 00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:25,359 analyze the trajectories run their own 1351 00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:28,000 risk assessments as to what could happen 1352 00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:29,839 if we lose control 1353 00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:31,359 and that's how we 1354 00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,000 uh end up with uh with the license the 1355 00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,720 approval the process is a is a 1356 00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:39,119 painstaking one uh it's not like they 1357 00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:40,559 take their word for 1358 00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,160 what we tell them they go and they do 1359 00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,160 their own independent analysis and say 1360 00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:46,079 that 1361 00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,400 we meet the expected 1362 00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,559 we meet the criteria uh to receive an 1363 00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,880 faa license 1364 00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:54,480 what would happen if you lose control of 1365 00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:56,079 dragon 1366 00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:57,520 um 1367 00:52:04,710 --> 00:51:58,319 i 1368 00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,720 attached we we would tumble and break up 1369 00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:06,400 um 1370 00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:08,160 during orbit 1371 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,960 i'm sorry why it's in orbit 1372 00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,640 so in other words if you don't have a 1373 00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:14,720 controlled reentry what would happen 1374 00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:17,040 with the spacecraft 1375 00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:18,800 uh well hopefully the dragon will break 1376 00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:22,640 up if we don't have a controlled reentry 1377 00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,839 all right 1378 00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,440 quinn i'm going to 1379 00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:27,200 let you make some closing comments and 1380 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:30,400 then we're going to close this out 1381 00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:31,920 i think we ended up covering all the 1382 00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:34,720 points uh that i wanted to as far as 1383 00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:36,880 some of the questions that came up um 1384 00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:40,400 but i did want to close with uh a huge 1385 00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,839 thanks to nasa spacex would not 1386 00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:45,680 look like we do today 1387 00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:48,079 without the support both the financial 1388 00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,520 and the technical support that we've 1389 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:51,440 received from them they've been a 1390 00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:57,190 nasa has taken a lot of heat and 1391 00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:59,520 criticism recently and i just have to 1392 00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:01,040 say that the relationship has been 1393 00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,319 extraordinary 1394 00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,160 i think we've both learned a lot both 1395 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:06,400 both teams have learned a lot and i just 1396 00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,040 wanted to thank them 1397 00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:11,200 all right gwen thank you very much 1398 00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:14,640 everyone please watch for any updates 1399 00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,359 that will be issued by nasa and spacex 1400 00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:19,280 in your notes to editors as far as what 1401 00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:20,960 our plans will be for when the next 1402 00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:22,720 launch attempt will be and what the plan 1403 00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,640 will be for launch day